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Post by osha on Apr 16, 2018 5:08:20 GMT -7
People like ranger06 would love to just argue in circles with me using old ideas the system wants you to have faith in and in the end it solves nothing but pissing two people off. Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. Yup, and people like Ranger06 had an orphan in his battalion rise from cadet to 2LT as he pinned one of her bars on her. Like her fellow millennials she too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their (now dead) parent's generation. She was joining other young lieutenants, captains and NCOs on their way to a successful career in the military. Just like that list of my kids, nieces and nephews, those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in" like of hard work and dedication just keep on working as they've always done. And you use a circle of people right around yourself to try and prove a point. There are millions of people in this country and they are not all around you. Cancer patients dying and college graduates working in fast food because they cannot find a job like they trained for. Same ole ranger06, in that same ole box.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 16, 2018 8:20:56 GMT -7
Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. Yup, and people like Ranger06 had an orphan in his battalion rise from cadet to 2LT as he pinned one of her bars on her. Like her fellow millennials she too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their (now dead) parent's generation. She was joining other young lieutenants, captains and NCOs on their way to a successful career in the military. Just like that list of my kids, nieces and nephews, those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in" like of hard work and dedication just keep on working as they've always done. And you use a circle of people right around yourself to try and prove a point. There are millions of people in this country and they are not all around you. Cancer patients dying and college graduates working in fast food because they cannot find a job like they trained for. Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. That circle of people is not only nation wide, it's world wide. They too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their parent's generation. Point proven. You failed again. Every cancer patient will die. Actually, everyone else will die too, but that fact has nothing to do with this discussion. Do try to keep your comments relevant. I just named off a bunch of college grads - all gainfully employed and are succeeding in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in". And BTW, I'm a college grad that never had a job in either one of my majors (or any of my three minors), but have had two successful careers and trying to start a third (still not in any of my college majors or minors). I also worked fast food in my day and loved it. Looks like I succeeded in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in".
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Post by osha on Apr 16, 2018 8:25:16 GMT -7
And you use a circle of people right around yourself to try and prove a point. There are millions of people in this country and they are not all around you. Cancer patients dying and college graduates working in fast food because they cannot find a job like they trained for. Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. That circle of people is not only nation wide, it's world wide. They too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their parent's generation. Point proven. You failed again. Every cancer patient will die. Actually, everyone else will die too, but that fact has nothing to do with this discussion. Do try to keep your comments relevant. I just named off a bunch of college grads - all gainfully employed and are succeeding in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in". And BTW, I'm a college grad that never had a job in either one of my majors (or any of my three minors), but have had two successful careers and trying to start a third (still not in any of my college majors or minors). I also worked fast food in my day and loved it. Looks like I succeeded in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in". And my point has been proven.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 16, 2018 10:51:23 GMT -7
Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. That circle of people is not only nation wide, it's world wide. They too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their parent's generation. Point proven. You failed again. Every cancer patient will die. Actually, everyone else will die too, but that fact has nothing to do with this discussion. Do try to keep your comments relevant. I just named off a bunch of college grads - all gainfully employed and are succeeding in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in". And BTW, I'm a college grad that never had a job in either one of my majors (or any of my three minors), but have had two successful careers and trying to start a third (still not in any of my college majors or minors). I also worked fast food in my day and loved it. Looks like I succeeded in those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in". And my point has been proven. Yep, cancer patients are dying. However, no one challenged this.
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Post by osha on Apr 16, 2018 11:03:29 GMT -7
As I said in a previous post, if we looked at health care as a liability we would be concerned with saving money instead of profits for large corporations. At that point cancer might be like the common cold.
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Post by cajun2core on Apr 16, 2018 11:06:54 GMT -7
First they came for the Taco Bell jobs, but I said nothing because I was smarter than that and studying in college. Then they came for the undergraduate intern jobs, but I said nothing because I was a graduate student researcher. Then they came for the graduate student jobs, but I said nothing because I was working an entry-level white-collar job for a Fortune 500 firm. Then they automated away my entry-level job, but I said nothing because I was a skilled mid-level employee. Then they eliminated the pension program, but I said nothing because I had a 401K. Then they right-sized my group, but I said nothing because I was one of the few high performers they kept. Then they eliminated the PPO and HMO and switched the entire company to a High Deductible plan, but I said nothing because we would not be delivering any babies or treating chronic conditions, and we were both less than 10 pounds overweight. Then the landscape changed and my technical skills were useless, but I said nothing because I was in management. Then the company was reorganized and I was finally let go, and I sought to pick up again. My experience commanded too high a salary to net another management position. My technical skills were too rusty to get hired in another mid-level position. There were no entry-level white-collar positions left to apply to. The university required a PhD to teach. The undergraduate program tuition alone would cost my entire 401K and savings. I could not be a student and still draw unemployment. I was no longer young enough to never get sick, and needed regular visits to the doctor. I was too young to qualify for Medicare, yet had never argued to lower the eligibility age. I finally applied to a Taco Bell job, where the manager remembered me from their days at the register. He refused to offer me a job because I failed to support his family when he needed health insurance. I threatened to sue and he laughed in my face saying "If you're applying for a job here then I already know you don't have enough money to sue. Welcome to capitalism my friend!" There is much truth in this as this happened to me. I had a great job and got laid off. My technical skills were useless and then they got rusty. I did get a job at UA making 1/4 of what I was making before. I do blame myself though. I counted on being so valued at the company I was working for that I would never get laid off. Obviously, I was wrong. I also pigeon-holed myself into a niche market and when that market ended, I had no marketable technical skills. Eight years later, I am no where near making the amount of money I was before and I am still in the same job at UA.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 16, 2018 12:07:18 GMT -7
As I said in a previous post, if we looked at health care as a liability we would be concerned with saving money instead of profits for large corporations. At that point cancer might be like the common cold. That's fine and dandy, but as previously stated, it had nothing to do with our discussion.
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Post by osha on Apr 16, 2018 12:25:20 GMT -7
As I said in a previous post, if we looked at health care as a liability we would be concerned with saving money instead of profits for large corporations. At that point cancer might be like the common cold. That's fine and dandy, but as previously stated, it had nothing to do with our discussion. You replied to my comment that said just that. And you replied to my comment about old ideas. I presented a new one by saying we should see health care as a liability. Would you like to pat yourself on the back for not being able to ever follow a discussion? In my book, if you are saying old ideas work and we are spending billions a year as a nation on health care, then your old ideas are not working and this is what we are talking about. Keep up and keep track.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 16, 2018 12:47:05 GMT -7
That's fine and dandy, but as previously stated, it had nothing to do with our discussion. You replied to my comment that said just that. And you replied to my comment about old ideas. I presented a new one by saying we should see health care as a liability. Would you like to pat yourself on the back for not being able to ever follow a discussion? In my book, if you are saying old ideas work and we are spending billions a year as a nation on health care, then your old ideas are not working and this is what we are talking about. Keep up and keep track. Wrong again me bucko. I replied to this comment "Cancer patients dying and college graduates working in fast food because they cannot find a job like they trained for." That was the first of any post where cancer was mentioned. Again, it was not part of our discussion. "And you replied to my comment about old ideas." Sure did and showed many examples of the younger generations using them to gain education and successful careers just as I did. Your "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in" works. "I presented a new one by saying we should see health care as a liability." You never discussed this with me. You were too busy crying about the all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their parent's generation. Do try to stay on tract.
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Post by osha on Apr 16, 2018 13:00:59 GMT -7
You replied to my comment that said just that. And you replied to my comment about old ideas. I presented a new one by saying we should see health care as a liability. Would you like to pat yourself on the back for not being able to ever follow a discussion? In my book, if you are saying old ideas work and we are spending billions a year as a nation on health care, then your old ideas are not working and this is what we are talking about. Keep up and keep track. Wrong again me bucko. I replied to this comment "Cancer patients dying and college graduates working in fast food because they cannot find a job like they trained for." That was the first of any post where cancer was mentioned. Again, it was not part of our discussion. "And you replied to my comment about old ideas." Sure did and showed many examples of the younger generations using them to gain education and successful careers just as I did. Your "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in" works. "I presented a new one by saying we should see health care as a liability." You never discussed this with me. You were too busy crying about the all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their parent's generation. Do try to stay on tract. You are so blind and you fight so hard to start an argument that you cannot even keep track of where you are. Look at the first post on page two of this thread. This ends now. I am so sick of having these backs and forths with you. How about you search Google for the things I talk about? Go learn something and step outside the box. And most of all stop trying to start an argument. If this continues I will simply delete your posts. We had you have argued many times and I simply stated that and that was it. Move on.
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Post by John Doe on Apr 16, 2018 13:16:42 GMT -7
Thread locked, this one has run it's course.
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