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Post by snakebit on May 22, 2017 11:51:40 GMT -7
Thanks for the citation. If you read the comments you'll find that the silly graphs are well debunked. For example-
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Post by snakebit on May 22, 2017 11:46:21 GMT -7
That superiority and the predominance of religion in the South probably explains why the Southerners went on to lead the greatest democracy in the world to a position of world supremacy while the Northern states became a minor region known for extremist Evangelical piety, ignorance, poverty and bigotry. The superiority of your ancestors probably also explains why the Northern states still need welfare/transfer payments from the Southern states to avoid becoming third world like hell holes. Oh, wait, That seems backward. Entiomo, forget Lincoln and your ancestors who got their asses whipped by him (and by my ancestors). The inbred bigots xian evangelicals in the South in the modern era fought tooth and nail against desegregation which had to be forced on them by the civilized people and actual Christians of the North. Who still favors slavery or at least many of its bigoted beliefs and who doesn't? Ever notice WHO those welfare payments go to in the South? That mighty Godless, liberal Northern horde created that mess, not us. And who do the "transfer" payments go to? Veterans and retirees who hated the North as much as we do. As far as those supposedly "civilized people and actual Christians of the North", let this Southern Christian conservative straighten that out: "At the same time, an open secret haunted America’s northern states. As the nation gazed at southern whites’ resistance to the civil rights movement—at the Klansmen and demagogues, attack dogs and cattle prods— many recoiled in horror. Northerners told themselves that such scenes emanated from a backward land, a dying region, a place apart. Yet rampant segregation in cities across the country rendered racial inequality a national trait more than a southern aberration. When black migrants streamed north during and after World War Two, James Baldwin reflected, “they do not escape Jim Crow: they merely encounter another, not-less-deadly variety.” They moved not to New York, but to Harlem and Bedford-Stuyvesant; not to Chicago, but to the South Side; not to Boston, but to Lower Roxbury.
To scholars, however, the North as a land of liberty has become a straw man. No reflective historian any longer believes it. Scholars have focused on the North’s dark side. They have shown slavery’s deep roots in New England and New York City. Histories of twentieth-century America reveal the North’s bloody record of racial violence, and its stunningly segregated landscape of affluent white suburbs and destitute brown cities. In recent works of history, the North and the South emerge as rough racial equivalents: the South had Mississippi; the North had the Boston busing crisis. If the progressive side of the North enters into these stories, it is depicted as a rhetorical mask that hides the reality of racism."
www.salon.com/2014/12/14/the_north_isnt_better_than_the_south_the_real_history_of_modern_racism_and_segregation_above_the_mason_dixon_line/In Lincoln, your ancestors followed and fought for a tyrant, racist and murderer. Yet, his statues and memorials still stand unmolested as a testament to liberal and Northern hypocrisy and political correctness. Right out of the KKK playbook.
I'd ask for a citation but we know this crap is written by cowards who protect their anonymity by hiding under White robes. Like I said before, my heroes and ancestors in gray were and always will be far better men than Lincoln and his Northern mob will ever be. I stand by that and I will defend it with facts like the ones above. BTW, as far as Southerners getting their "asses whipped" as you put it, some 360,000 dead Yankees might have disagreed. The South lost because of the lack of manpower and materials, not because they were wrong. Lack of materials was a result of the South being a backward society that didn't have the intelligence, the education or the work ethic to keep up with the industrial revolution. That is a reason for the ass whipping, not an excuse.
Plus, of course, it just could be that the Christian God was on the side of those with a just cause.You could be right about racism in the North entimos,the horrible racism in the North would certainly explain the mass historical migrations of free Blacks from the North to the South.
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Post by snakebit on May 18, 2017 15:48:40 GMT -7
There's nothing to debate about their motivations for secession. They put it right in their declarations of secession, just as our Declaration of Independence specified our reasons for separating from England. The documents were very up front about the fact that they were leaving in order to preserve their institution of slavery. Go read them if you believe otherwise; most of them are short. YOU might want to "read them" and make additional efforts to understand what they say. I'll help you. There were only five "declarations" out of 11 Confederate States, and Virginia's says nothing. The South Carolina document dealt with economic issues and state's rights, not slavery. So, these four documents created by a handful of firebrands speak to the motivation of five million souls in the Confederacy? Here's the content breakdown in the four declarations Only 6% of Southerners were slave owners and of these 5% owned five or fewer and worked beside them in the fields. Are you actually postulating that the motivation of the remaining 94% of Southerners was slavery? CITATION NEEDED!
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Post by snakebit on May 18, 2017 15:44:27 GMT -7
I know you can't resist the temptation to twist my words into something I didn't say. I say "late date" because slavery had been morally condemned going on a thousand years, and by that time legally banned in almost the entire world. Even Mexico, Central America, and South America mostly banned slavery in the 1820s. The U.S. Constitutional ban on importation of slaves after 1804 indicates that it was already assumed by the founding of the nation that states would begin abolishing slavery of their own accord. There is nothing in Lincoln's words that can be interpreted as advocating for slavery, so it's not relevant to what I said above. I specifically said above "There is some room to accommodate the effect of prevailing opinion of the times on historical figures." The prevailing opinion of that time was that the white race was superior to all others in every way. The evidence to the contrary had barely begun to emerge, so it is unjust to condemn people of that time for that view. That's quite different from support of slavery. I twisted nothing you said. You made a statement and from that declaration, I expected you to be consistent in condemning a racist like Lincoln and demanding that his memorials be removed. Alas, requesting consistency and objectivity from a liberal is a "lost cause". I just gave you a nibble of what Lincoln said. I can keep making the case if you'd like. Lincoln was a tyrant, racist and a murderer. My heroes and ancestors in gray were and always will be far better men that Lincoln and his Northern mob will ever be.Why don't you look up the "Corwin Amendment" and find out what Lincoln said about it during his first inaugural. Look up Lincoln's letter to Horace Greeley where he said this: "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it". Look up Lincoln's efforts to keep slavery intact in all of the border states. Look up Lincoln's desire to ship blacks back to Africa. Or just study his many statements during the debates with Stephen Douglas. And THEN tell me that you are OK with tearing down Confederate monuments but still want to honor that piece of 19th century Illinois trash. That superiority and the predominance of religion in the South probably explains why the Southerners went on to lead the greatest democracy in the world to a position of world supremacy while the Northern states became a minor region known for extremist Evangelical piety, ignorance, poverty and bigotry. The superiority of your ancestors probably also explains why the Northern states still need welfare/transfer payments from the Southern states to avoid becoming third world like hell holes. Oh, wait, That seems backward. Entiomo, forget Lincoln and your ancestors who got their asses whipped by him (and by my ancestors). The inbred bigots xian evangelicals in the South in the modern era fought tooth and nail against desegregation which had to be forced on them by the civilized people and actual Christians of the North. Who still favors slavery or at least many of its bigoted beliefs and who doesn't?
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Post by snakebit on May 16, 2017 14:18:28 GMT -7
Turns out the Snake is correct. We'll see if LA's $15/hour minimum wage sticks. With everything inflated it will probably inflate the cost of living as well. So explain how this helps the poor, which is your thread topic. California has some of the highest taxes in the country. Compare to Tennessee and North Carolina, which are also business friendly and growing, but with lower taxes. But again, the poor and disadvantaged: Have higher school drop out rates, why? No father figure in the home? Parents set bad example? They have a higher rate of unemployment: Well, with no high school diploma, strike one. Criminal record, strike 2. Poor life choices (facial tattoos & piercings, drug abuse), strike 3.The government can't fix this, as proven by over 75 failed programs to fight poverty. Looks like between you and entimos you have all the answers. What I don't understand is why states that lead in embracing religion and Republican politics also trail the rest of the nation in education and economic progress and lead in ignorance, poverty and bigotry. You deplore anti poverty programs while ignoring the fact that you would be living in third world society if it weren't for the huge transfer of federal funds from Blue states to Red. The people in these states are all welfare recipients, it's just that the welfare dollars go to your state governments rather than directly to you people. Seriously hoofie if you want to talk about North Carolinas economic success can we also talk about the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars the state lost because of the rabid anti LGBT bigotry and ignorance of the Evangelical community and Republican politicians in the state? Yuppers Cletus, Republicans and xian religion are the answer no matter what the question.
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Post by snakebit on May 15, 2017 14:52:54 GMT -7
Last I checked, there are 50 states. Texas is a very successful Red state, is industry friendly, farming friendly, has no state income tax. The 3 states mentioned by Mr. Bit have a long history of oppression to over come, Alabama and Mississippi more so than Louisiana. Louisiana's history is based more on corruption and tax abuse on big business. Right now, oil rig counts in the Gulf are rising except for Louisiana waters. There are too many lawsuits from the state filed against the industry that creates an unnecessary risk for them. But that is another topic. Tell us how the great blue commune of California is working out? Businesses are leaving that state for red ones. The "great Blue commune" seems to be doing just fine- www.mercurynews.com/2016/07/05/californias-economy-is-bigger-than-all-but-five-nations-world-bank-data-says/Certainly there are businesses that don't need an educated work force and aren't concerned with bigotry (lots of immigrants, non Whites gays in high tech companies) are moving to low tax, low quality of life Red states but overall California apparently is attracting more businesses than it is losing- www.scpr.org/news/2015/04/07/50825/the-myth-of-businesses-leaving-southern-california/You can't believe everything you read in the alt right media hoofie.
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Post by snakebit on May 13, 2017 9:56:28 GMT -7
Looks like Snake has abandoned his own thread. C'mon, man. Sorry I don't stop by every day but the real world intrudes. In addition to looking at cities run by Democrats maybe we should look at entire states run by Republicans and religious zealots. How are Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi doing? They consistently rank at or near the bottom in Education, health care, and personal income and state economic success. At least they're tops in church attendance. They are welfare states full of people that complain about welfare for individuals. All three receive more money from the Federal govt than they pay in. All three depend on money coming from the more educated and progressive states like California and New York to keep their infrastructure and quality of life from falling completely into the third world. People who believe the world is 6000 years old obviously can't compete in the tech revolution. People who wave the confederate flag certainly don't attract industries that need anything but manual labor. But, hey, at least you folks still go to church and bravely fight ungodly behavior like equal rights for people who aren't White and/or don't conform to you ideas of moral behavior. Continue to vote Republican and go to church, don't think about that has worked out so far. Can I have a praise the lord? Can I have an amen?
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Post by snakebit on May 9, 2017 15:28:36 GMT -7
Let's discuss just one of entimos apparently endless supply of sweeping generalizations.
Does anyone else feel the "christian" love being spread with entimos broad brush?
Do I hear an "AMEN"?
How about a "PRAISE THE LORD?
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Post by snakebit on Apr 30, 2017 17:06:37 GMT -7
Hoofie, I'm sure you'll appreciate how your most respected news source is regarded by real journalists-
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Post by snakebit on Apr 19, 2017 8:42:29 GMT -7
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, . For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored. Snake bite.Personal I am sick of your slurs. You yourself are showing discrimation,racist in your posts against others. I wish I was a white supremacist your askhole would not still be posting racist remarks toward me!LOL! Guess what I found your nose,it was stuck in my business! Poor little dixie. If you don't want to be called a White supremacist don't post (pray) that it would improve the country if all non Whites left. Personally I believe this would be a better country if non Whites stay and White supremacists leave. You are entitled to espouse the opposite without being censored.
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Post by snakebit on Apr 15, 2017 16:40:21 GMT -7
Wanting to cut (2d) SS and kill SS are 2 different things, according to Webster's Dictionary. (hint: that's a citation). According to his first quote: As I currently understand it, 2050 is just under 33 years from now. Allowing the cuts an equal distribution over time, this would equate to 1/2 of 1% cut per year.
Mr Bit needs to look up the definition of rhetoric. (another fantastic citation) It is the universal language of politicians, regardless of the color jersey he wears.
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, As an aside I'm still wondering why you censored dixies White supremacist statements. For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. Dixies racist views are, judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored.
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Post by snakebit on Apr 15, 2017 16:28:19 GMT -7
I understand your level of ignorancel to.Rather than embarrass yourself with questions that show your ignorance why don't you attempt to inform yourself, Start with google, it's not that hard.
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Post by snakebit on Apr 14, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -7
Why does Ryan want to kill SS? Where did that rhetoric come from? Rather than embarrass yourself with questions that show your ignorance why don't you attempt to inform yourself, Start with google, it's not that hard.
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Post by snakebit on Apr 14, 2017 7:49:50 GMT -7
Snakeit.... Two thoughts- I replied to John Doe about John Doe's rant apparently based on a site that he linked. You ain't John Doe. If you master the use of google you might also check the definition of "public forum". Do you have any opinion on Trumps plan to cut workers contributions to SS and supposedly replace that funding with revenue from border taxes now that you know he is pushing it? I mean any plan other than to suggest anyone who stays informed on what Trump is up to needs changes in their meds? Basically this is part of Paul Ryans plan to kill SS as we know (and love) it.
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Post by snakebit on Apr 14, 2017 7:36:33 GMT -7
Seriously hoofie, you censor me for suggesting that praying for all non Whites to improve the country by leaving is hate speech and asking dixie what god she was praying to? Please cite the TOS you think I violated. Dixies statements were despicable and yet you protect her Birds etc. Everyone was off topic and on a tirade. Should I have erased all of your comments like I did the others? I agree that statements were despicable, that's why I wiped it. If I could have deleted the entire thread I would have. Should I be grateful that you left up a selectively edited and out of context portion of my post? A snippet that made no point and no sense after your dishonest editing. * You should never have removed Dixies post simply because it was offensive. It was not a personal attack or any other TOS violation. When she states that this county would be better off if all non Whites left she is expressing a valid point of view that is shared by millions of deplorables. These people, despicable as they may be, have every right to express themselves here too.
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