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Post by John Doe on Apr 8, 2018 6:45:01 GMT -7
First they came for the Taco Bell jobs, but I said nothing because I was smarter than that and studying in college.
Then they came for the undergraduate intern jobs, but I said nothing because I was a graduate student researcher.
Then they came for the graduate student jobs, but I said nothing because I was working an entry-level white-collar job for a Fortune 500 firm.
Then they automated away my entry-level job, but I said nothing because I was a skilled mid-level employee.
Then they eliminated the pension program, but I said nothing because I had a 401K.
Then they right-sized my group, but I said nothing because I was one of the few high performers they kept.
Then they eliminated the PPO and HMO and switched the entire company to a High Deductible plan, but I said nothing because we would not be delivering any babies or treating chronic conditions, and we were both less than 10 pounds overweight.
Then the landscape changed and my technical skills were useless, but I said nothing because I was in management.
Then the company was reorganized and I was finally let go, and I sought to pick up again.
My experience commanded too high a salary to net another management position. My technical skills were too rusty to get hired in another mid-level position. There were no entry-level white-collar positions left to apply to. The university required a PhD to teach. The undergraduate program tuition alone would cost my entire 401K and savings. I could not be a student and still draw unemployment.
I was no longer young enough to never get sick, and needed regular visits to the doctor.
I was too young to qualify for Medicare, yet had never argued to lower the eligibility age.
I finally applied to a Taco Bell job, where the manager remembered me from their days at the register. He refused to offer me a job because I failed to support his family when he needed health insurance. I threatened to sue and he laughed in my face saying "If you're applying for a job here then I already know you don't have enough money to sue. Welcome to capitalism my friend!"
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Post by hoofie on Apr 13, 2018 5:41:02 GMT -7
Venezuela is a prime example of socialist failure.
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Post by John Doe on Apr 13, 2018 6:14:56 GMT -7
Venezuela was a pure socialist country not a democratic socialist country. there is a difference between the two.
Democratic socialism aims to keep the excesses of capitalism in check but allows for capitalism to continue which is what we have today and is not controlled by a un-elected central government but is controlled by the people through fair elections.
pure socialism has no capitalistic or democratic component and is purely controlled by an un-elected central government for the greater good.
Venezuela is a example of poorly implemented pure socialism. pure socialism does not work.
most other countries around the world such as Canada are examples of a proper way to implement democratic socialism and have been working for decades.
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Post by badman on Apr 14, 2018 16:18:06 GMT -7
I have a sign in my truck on the glove box lid. It reads.. Quit Whining!
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Post by osha on Apr 15, 2018 3:16:57 GMT -7
The problem with the right wing of the party is they are way to out of touch with the problems of today. They either have good jobs they have been at for a long time or they have 40 years of experience that no employer will turn you down for.
Most of them went to school when it was much cheaper and grew up in a booming economy. Here we are today with current generations slowing down with reproduction because they cannot pay for children. Many of the young people live with parents or friends because they cannot play the same games that previous generations played. There is no risk vs. reward system unless you are an investor. The reality is all the wealth is going to the top 10% while the right says "Quit whining".
These same people yelling "Quit whining" care less about their grand children because they had fun and screw the generations of today. They are climate change deniers and at the very least can't reflect and wow, maybe plastics in our oceans and CO2 from our cars is not a good thing... Nope, stop whining.
I have generally stopped talking about politics because we have three types of people. Those who understand, those who don't and those who believe in old ideas and live inside that box. it is impossible for many to think for themselves and step away from what the rich of course want you to think. They want the working poor to think they are middle class all because they make a check for working 60 hours a week for scraps. And they want you to think that a college education fixes everything. And sadly to many young people are living in the realities of this bs that has been fed to them from the start.
Believe the media and the rich white guys who own the media because they say the same things the media has been saying for years. And take comfort in your "statistics" that uses old ideas to try and tell you everything is fine. Because really, there is no special interests at all trying to keep you confident in that paper in you pocket you call money.
Just stop whining already and die like a good little idiot. The right wing answer to everything.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 15, 2018 6:25:11 GMT -7
Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
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Post by hoofie on Apr 15, 2018 8:44:41 GMT -7
I guess being self made or self sufficient is no longer en vogue. I don't want the government to hand me anything because there are tentacles attached. I don't want government to control everything because it can't control itself let alone free enterprise. The function of government is to protect us from threats, both foreign and domestic, and maintain infrastructure for free enterprise.
Didja know that there are over 6 million jobs open in this country today? Most high school graduates are not qualified for them, while the left continues to fight for open borders so that the entry level jobs (translation: jobs that teach you how to work) are taken by foreigners. Let that sink in.
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Post by osha on Apr 15, 2018 8:55:36 GMT -7
Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. And you are exactly the type of person I was talking about. Bit ironic eh?
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Post by osha on Apr 15, 2018 9:04:11 GMT -7
I guess being self made or self sufficient is no longer en vogue. I don't want the government to hand me anything because there are tentacles attached. I don't want government to control everything because it can't control itself let alone free enterprise. The function of government is to protect us from threats, both foreign and domestic, and maintain infrastructure for free enterprise. Didja know that there are over 6 million jobs open in this country today? Most high school graduates are not qualified for them, while the left continues to fight for open borders so that the entry level jobs (translation: jobs that teach you how to work) are taken by foreigners. Let that sink in. And how old are you hoofie? Think about that. I know many people. Of all the people I know the ones who have success are my age and I grew up in a different world then younger people today. Why can't you right wingers simply admit it is harder today? You can't because you live in an enclosed box and think back to your grand days and where you are today and with rose tinted glasses say "I did it and so can everyone else". That does not spell progress in any way. If you are unable to see the problems today you are contributing to the problems of today. And yours and my own generation has really enjoyed placing the burden on my children didn't we? In case you don't know what I am talking about, what about the debt? And you right wingers vote for war because we are the mighty, mighty USA. I truly can't wait till the day when we are punked. Really, I can't. Because we have killed millions of people in the world in the name of mostly BS and all with votes. And we wonder why the world is the way it is. Blah, two brain cells and people can see through the crap. Sadly most lack that ability and it shows.
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Post by hoofie on Apr 15, 2018 11:13:39 GMT -7
I guess being self made or self sufficient is no longer en vogue. I don't want the government to hand me anything because there are tentacles attached. I don't want government to control everything because it can't control itself let alone free enterprise. The function of government is to protect us from threats, both foreign and domestic, and maintain infrastructure for free enterprise. Didja know that there are over 6 million jobs open in this country today? Most high school graduates are not qualified for them, while the left continues to fight for open borders so that the entry level jobs (translation: jobs that teach you how to work) are taken by foreigners. Let that sink in. And how old are you hoofie? Think about that. I know many people. Of all the people I know the ones who have success are my age and I grew up in a different world then younger people today. Why can't you right wingers simply admit it is harder today? You can't because you live in an enclosed box and think back to your grand days and where you are today and with rose tinted glasses say "I did it and so can everyone else". That does not spell progress in any way. If you are unable to see the problems today you are contributing to the problems of today. And yours and my own generation has really enjoyed placing the burden on my children didn't we? In case you don't know what I am talking about, what about the debt? And you right wingers vote for war because we are the mighty, mighty USA. I truly can't wait till the day when we are punked. Really, I can't. Because we have killed millions of people in the world in the name of mostly BS and all with votes. And we wonder why the world is the way it is. Blah, two brain cells and people can see through the crap. Sadly most lack that ability and it shows. I am 56 years old, born and raised in northeast Ohio. I am the last of the boomers. There is no company pension for me, I doubt Social security will be there for me. I have busted my ass all of my life to say I've never been unemployed. Even at 16 years old and washing dishes for $1.15/hr I was determined to be the best dishwasher there ever was. That attitude is what drives me. I am one of the best at what I do in my industry. I am mentoring a 30 something year old at my workplace. While he succeeds on most tasks, he fails to learn the details of the problem to recognize it again. He will have my job in 10 years, but he'll never replace me. He has 15 years with this company and is not your typical 30 something. You have to embrace technology to succeed in today's job market. I see the problems of today. Teachers can no longer discipline. Schools teach memorization rather than how to learn. Shop class and Home Ec no longer exist. Kids don't know how to cook, do laundry, or know how to use a screw driver. The other day, our 24 year old OCS salesman wanted to borrow a crescent wrench to remove a round hose fitting from the back of a coffee maker. Our schools are failing us but who runs the schools? School boards made up of parents that want the best for their children. The best being a high paid white collar job without having to work your way up the ladder. I didn't make this mess. I've succeeded in spite of it and so have my children. My 30 something daughter knows how to change oil in her car, fix a leaky sink drain, change a shower head, and generally fend for herself. She lives by herself in a rented housean has never been unemployed, even while earning 2 masters degrees. If you wait for the government to hand you a life, you're going to have a sore ass.
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Post by hoofie on Apr 15, 2018 13:43:55 GMT -7
And, let me add this:
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 15, 2018 16:21:19 GMT -7
Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. And you are exactly the type of person I was talking about. Bit ironic eh? We've heard this far too many times already and it still reads stupid.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 15, 2018 16:39:49 GMT -7
I know many people. Of all the people I know the ones who have success are my age and I grew up in a different world then younger people today. Now this statement is funny to the max. My Eagle Scout autistic son has a masters, my 20 something daughter has a BA. I've a niece of that age group with her MD, another with a PhD, more nieces and nephews (one also an Eagle Scout) with masters. They've grown up in that different world and so what. Then again their parents wouldn't let them cry about how all the opportunities were somehow taken by their parent's generation.
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Post by osha on Apr 15, 2018 22:45:23 GMT -7
I see the problems of today. Teachers can no longer discipline. Schools teach memorization rather than how to learn. Shop class and Home Ec no longer exist. Kids don't know how to cook, do laundry, or know how to use a screw driver. The other day, our 24 year old OCS salesman wanted to borrow a crescent wrench to remove a round hose fitting from the back of a coffee maker. Our schools are failing us but who runs the schools? School boards made up of parents that want the best for their children. The best being a high paid white collar job without having to work your way up the ladder. I didn't make this mess. I've succeeded in spite of it and so have my children. My 30 something daughter knows how to change oil in her car, fix a leaky sink drain, change a shower head, and generally fend for herself. She lives by herself in a rented housean has never been unemployed, even while earning 2 masters degrees. If you wait for the government to hand you a life, you're going to have a sore ass. You bring up valid points for sure. And I agree that discipline is lacking in homes and schools. We have children today that done bad things and only got sat down for a timeout. And we wonder why there is so much violence from the younger generations? They never got to learn that when you screw up, it hurts. I also agree that young people today are much dumber and my children and I talk about this all the time. When the schools are teaching that there is no wrong answer for things, we live in a liberal utopia where we are always concerned about hurting someones feelings. I think a major point of all this is school boards ran by people with an agenda and of course they want to satisfy the people who invest in them and those people want stupid people who will never question anything. And that is what the schools are creating. And these kids graduate and they have liberal ideas that are mostly way off in left field somewhere. Like I had a long argument one time with a couple liberals about how my guns are planning to kill me. It was funny but so unrealistic that it showed me how stupid people really could be. The information is out there everywhere though and this is my point, children today are being screwed. Wages have not followed inflation and have been nowhere close and in 1968 dollars wages are missing about 4 bucks. And there have been many articles online about young people today are going to be the first generation to make less then their parents. And although production is higher today then ever before, people are making less and your economic power in 1968 was much higher then a child today and yet the costs rise. Then we have companies creating a need and we blame the need on the people not creating the problem. Food stamps for instance. Walmart has historically been the largest pool of workers of the food stamp program. Walmart needs workers and people have to fill that space. Walmart gets huge tax breaks all while creating a need on the back of the tax payer. That is just one example but why can't we go after the problem instead of the result of the problem? For years I have been saying that health care is just like any other business. Without evidence and with my own logic I have been saying for years that doctors don't cure because they want returning customers. And just the other day an article was posted by Goldman Sachs saying the same thing. The US pays a lot of money for medical insurance. Why can't we shift the system? If we see the health care system as a liability instead of a way to continue making profits from sick people, we find cures and it is cheaper. The cost of education and stuff like this are all big issues. Sitting around silent or using tired old ideas to solve the problems is never going to work. People like ranger06 would love to just argue in circles with me using old ideas the system wants you to have faith in and in the end it solves nothing but pissing two people off. I would say the system is already giving many and soon to effect all a very sore ass.
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 16, 2018 4:57:09 GMT -7
People like ranger06 would love to just argue in circles with me using old ideas the system wants you to have faith in and in the end it solves nothing but pissing two people off. Osha's same old broken record again, and again, and again, and again, and again. Yup, and people like Ranger06 had an orphan in his battalion rise from cadet to 2LT as he pinned one of her bars on her. Like her fellow millennials she too didn't cry about how all the opportunities that were somehow taken by their (now dead) parent's generation. She was joining other young lieutenants, captains and NCOs on their way to a successful career in the military. Just like that list of my kids, nieces and nephews, those "old ideas the system wants you to have faith in" like of hard work and dedication just keep on working as they've always done.
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