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Post by jiminix on Oct 29, 2016 13:18:14 GMT -7
The Republican FBI Director has decided to use his political office to try to influence the election. That is the most corrupt conduct we have seen from any official I can recall in the Obama administration. He should be fired for it, and the Justice Department should investigate and file charges against him if he has broken the law.
Democratic presidents usually appoint some Republicans to high offices to demonstrate their willingness to work with Republicans. But after this abuse of power by the FBI Director, there probably won't be any more appointments of Republicans by Democrats for a while.
Director Comey violated established Department of Justice policy by publicly commenting on the investigation before any facts were established, and he did it against the expressed advice of his boss the Attorney General.
It appears that none of these emails of Huma Abedin found on the computers in the Weiner investigation were either sent or received by Hillary Clinton, and they are all more than likely duplicates of other emails already investigated, since every email is on both the sender's and the receiver's computer. Comey admits that there is no indication that any of the emails involve wrongdoing by anybody, and that answers will not be forthcoming until after the election.
At this point, it doesn't look like this will significantly curtail Clinton's support, but it already has overshadowed the most recent embarrassments of Trump, and halted the accelerating shift of voters toward Clinton (which had reached +12% nationwide in a couple of the nonpartisan polls).
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Post by hoofie on Oct 29, 2016 13:36:52 GMT -7
All Hillary needed to to was to preserve the emails as ordered instead of deleting and Bleach Bit washing. There's your smoking gun. She should have been charged in July to allow the DNC time to seek another formidable candidate.
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Post by badman on Oct 29, 2016 17:55:34 GMT -7
I agree, hoofie. Anyone with enough sense to eat chicken can see your point.
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Post by jiminix on Oct 29, 2016 17:59:26 GMT -7
All Hillary needed to to was to preserve the emails as ordered instead of deleting and Bleach Bit washing. There's your smoking gun. She should have been charged in July to allow the DNC time to seek another formidable candidate. Hillary Clinton did not go through thousands of emails to decide what to delete. It was a clerical job to decide which ones were govt business and which ones weren't. The clerks made the decisions, and 33,000 were scheduled for deletion. Through some other clerk's negligence, they weren't deleted for several months. It was just coincidence that congress asked for the emails from those computers just before the deletion took place. If there was intent to deceive, they would have been deleted with the greatest possible speed. The FBI said there was no evidence of deceptive intent on the part of Clinton or any one else in her State Department. This is in contrast to the Bush administration, where hundreds of people were instructed to conduct business through email on gwb43.com for the specific reason of preventing an official archive. They deleted 22 million govt emails, plus 5 million from the actual White House server, accidentally they claimed. But that seems to be OK with you, they're Republicans.
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Post by harleydays on Oct 30, 2016 2:39:26 GMT -7
All Hillary needed to to was to preserve the emails as ordered instead of deleting and Bleach Bit washing. There's your smoking gun. She should have been charged in July to allow the DNC time to seek another formidable candidate. Hillary Clinton did not go through thousands of emails to decide what to delete. It was a clerical job to decide which ones were govt business and which ones weren't. The clerks made the decisions, and 33,000 were scheduled for deletion. Through some other clerk's negligence, they weren't deleted for several months. It was just coincidence that congress asked for the emails from those computers just before the deletion took place. If there was intent to deceive, they would have been deleted with the greatest possible speed. The FBI said there was no evidence of deceptive intent on the part of Clinton or any one else in her State Department. This is in contrast to the Bush administration, where hundreds of people were instructed to conduct business through email on gwb43.com for the specific reason of preventing an official archive. They deleted 22 million govt emails, plus 5 million from the actual White House server, accidentally they claimed. But that seems to be OK with you, they're Republicans. Jimi, this is simple...Who is responsible for the emails...If they are addressed to you, or you transmit the emails...then tell us, who is responsible...Regardless as to who reviewed and deleted, who hold the overall responsibility???...YOU!..Such as Killary is responsible...Fact her lawyers are also under investigation for reviewing of classified emails...They held no clearance to do so...Once again, Hillary mishandled classified information...The emails on Huma's computer which she shared with her disgraced husband (10s of 1000s) now are in question of Killary's competence in decision making and handling of classified information...While in the US Navy, I had a TS SCI TK clearence...Due to my work I had access to highly sensitive imagry information to perform the misssions myself and team were assigned...If, I or one of us had unintentially exposed classified information or failed to protect in accordance to require procedures, we or I would be living in Ft. Levenworth...We can't have 2 levels of law...The laws have to pertain to all equally...Comey finally has the smoking gun or he would not have advised Congress...
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Post by jiminix on Oct 30, 2016 8:54:42 GMT -7
Jimi, this is simple...Who is responsible for the emails...If they are addressed to you, or you transmit the emails...then tell us, who is responsible...Regardless as to who reviewed and deleted, who hold the overall responsibility???...YOU!..Such as Killary is responsible...Fact her lawyers are also under investigation for reviewing of classified emails...They held no clearance to do so...Once again, Hillary mishandled classified information...The emails on Huma's computer which she shared with her disgraced husband (10s of 1000s) now are in question of Killary's competence in decision making and handling of classified information...While in the US Navy, I had a TS SCI TK clearence...Due to my work I had access to highly sensitive imagry information to perform the misssions myself and team were assigned...If, I or one of us had unintentially exposed classified information or failed to protect in accordance to require procedures, we or I would be living in Ft. Levenworth...We can't have 2 levels of law...The laws have to pertain to all equally...Comey finally has the smoking gun or he would not have advised Congress... There is no 2nd level of law being applied to Hillary Clinton. The handling of these emails has been subjected to more scrutiny than anyone can imagine. Republicans will spend endless amounts of money, time, energy, and resources to try to destroy her. And yet, after all this scrutiny, the Republican head of the FBI said to Congress it would be foolish to try to build a legal case against her out of the evidence they have found (or lack thereof). What really makes a person's jaw drop to the floor is the utter hypocrisy of Republicans about this. They defended the Bush administration on their handling of emails, which was quantitatively more than 800 times as bad, yet try over and over again to bring down Clinton, refusing to accept the conclusions of their repeated investigations that there is nothing of substance there. It was even the former Bush Secretary of State, Colin Powell, who advised her based on his own experience, that a private email server was the way to go. If you want to see a double standard in the law, the place to look is Donald Trump. Is he going to get prosecuted for his deliberate fraud of Trump "University"? Will he be prosecuted for all the sexual assaults he perpetrated and bragged about? Will he ever get prosecuted for all the workers he refused to pay after they did the work, or contracts he refused to honor after the goods were delivered? No, he won't, and Republicans think there's nothing wrong with that. What hypocrites they are.
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Post by hoofie on Oct 30, 2016 9:59:08 GMT -7
It's clear to those that can see: The emails were deleted the day after they were subpoenaed by Congress. Had it been anybody else they would have been charged with obstruction of justice.
Even more interesting, the aid, Abedin, claimed no knowledge of the private server, yet had an active account on that same server, then sent emails to HRC on that server asking how to handle classified emails. (HRC later emailed back asking if they could remove the classified headings, then send the emails.) What is the definition of intent in the Clinton dictionary?
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Post by jiminix on Oct 30, 2016 13:10:18 GMT -7
It's clear to those that can see: The emails were deleted the day after they were subpoenaed by Congress. Had it been anybody else they would have been charged with obstruction of justice. Even more interesting, the aid, Abedin, claimed no knowledge of the private server, yet had an active account on that same server, then sent emails to HRC on that server asking how to handle classified emails. (HRC later emailed back asking if they could remove the classified headings, then send the emails.) What is the definition of intent in the Clinton dictionary? Maybe you should go talk to FBI director Comey, since you seem to have some information about Clinton's criminal intent that the FBI does not have access to.
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Post by harleydays on Oct 30, 2016 13:32:12 GMT -7
Jimi, this is simple...Who is responsible for the emails...If they are addressed to you, or you transmit the emails...then tell us, who is responsible...Regardless as to who reviewed and deleted, who hold the overall responsibility???...YOU!..Such as Killary is responsible...Fact her lawyers are also under investigation for reviewing of classified emails...They held no clearance to do so...Once again, Hillary mishandled classified information...The emails on Huma's computer which she shared with her disgraced husband (10s of 1000s) now are in question of Killary's competence in decision making and handling of classified information...While in the US Navy, I had a TS SCI TK clearence...Due to my work I had access to highly sensitive imagry information to perform the misssions myself and team were assigned...If, I or one of us had unintentially exposed classified information or failed to protect in accordance to require procedures, we or I would be living in Ft. Levenworth...We can't have 2 levels of law...The laws have to pertain to all equally...Comey finally has the smoking gun or he would not have advised Congress... There is no 2nd level of law being applied to Hillary Clinton. The handling of these emails has been subjected to more scrutiny than anyone can imagine. Republicans will spend endless amounts of money, time, energy, and resources to try to destroy her. And yet, after all this scrutiny, the Republican head of the FBI said to Congress it would be foolish to try to build a legal case against her out of the evidence they have found (or lack thereof). What really makes a person's jaw drop to the floor is the utter hypocrisy of Republicans about this. They defended the Bush administration on their handling of emails, which was quantitatively more than 800 times as bad, yet try over and over again to bring down Clinton, refusing to accept the conclusions of their repeated investigations that there is nothing of substance there. It was even the former Bush Secretary of State, Colin Powell, who advised her based on his own experience, that a private email server was the way to go. If you want to see a double standard in the law, the place to look is Donald Trump. Is he going to get prosecuted for his deliberate fraud of Trump "University"? Will he be prosecuted for all the sexual assaults he perpetrated and bragged about? Will he ever get prosecuted for all the workers he refused to pay after they did the work, or contracts he refused to honor after the goods were delivered? No, he won't, and Republicans think there's nothing wrong with that. What hypocrites they are. Keep drinking the Kool-aid Jimmy...Simple fact, she violated the Federal Recordings Act...you might one to review that and what here and any government officials requirements when leaving office...You deletion of her emails, private or official is a violation of that law...Please review the act so you will have a better understanding of what I am referring to.
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Post by snakebit on Oct 30, 2016 14:08:29 GMT -7
There is no 2nd level of law being applied to Hillary Clinton. The handling of these emails has been subjected to more scrutiny than anyone can imagine. Republicans will spend endless amounts of money, time, energy, and resources to try to destroy her. And yet, after all this scrutiny, the Republican head of the FBI said to Congress it would be foolish to try to build a legal case against her out of the evidence they have found (or lack thereof). What really makes a person's jaw drop to the floor is the utter hypocrisy of Republicans about this. They defended the Bush administration on their handling of emails, which was quantitatively more than 800 times as bad, yet try over and over again to bring down Clinton, refusing to accept the conclusions of their repeated investigations that there is nothing of substance there. It was even the former Bush Secretary of State, Colin Powell, who advised her based on his own experience, that a private email server was the way to go. If you want to see a double standard in the law, the place to look is Donald Trump. Is he going to get prosecuted for his deliberate fraud of Trump "University"? Will he be prosecuted for all the sexual assaults he perpetrated and bragged about? Will he ever get prosecuted for all the workers he refused to pay after they did the work, or contracts he refused to honor after the goods were delivered? No, he won't, and Republicans think there's nothing wrong with that. What hypocrites they are. Keep drinking the Kool-aid Jimmy...Simple fact, she violated the Federal Recordings Act...you might one to review that and what here and any government officials requirements when leaving office...You deletion of her emails, private or official is a violation of that law...Please review the act so you will have a better understanding of what I am referring to.
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Post by snakebit on Oct 30, 2016 14:15:44 GMT -7
Gee hardly, you'd think with your claimed experience and knowledge of this subject you would at least be able to direct jimi to an act that actually exists. There is no " Federal Recordings Act". I suggest it is you that might want to study something called the Federal Records Act. Here is a link for you. Good luck, there are a lot of words in addition to the title that you probably aren't familiar with. Federal Records Act - US Department of Education www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/fra.html"The Federal Records Act of 1950, as amended, establishes the framework for records management programs in Federal Agencies."
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Post by harleydays on Oct 31, 2016 7:04:13 GMT -7
Gee hardly, you'd think with your claimed experience and knowledge of this subject you would at least be able to direct jimi to an act that actually exists. There is no " Federal Recordings Act". I suggest it is you that might want to study something called the Federal Records Act. Here is a link for you. Good luck, there are a lot of words in addition to the title that you probably aren't familiar with. Federal Records Act - US Department of Education www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/fra.html"The Federal Records Act of 1950, as amended, establishes the framework for records management programs in Federal Agencies." Whatever you want to call it, she still violated it...Changes nothing...its a felony...I am quite sure Jimi can figure it out...
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Post by jiminix on Oct 31, 2016 13:52:12 GMT -7
Gee hardly, you'd think with your claimed experience and knowledge of this subject you would at least be able to direct jimi to an act that actually exists. There is no " Federal Recordings Act". I suggest it is you that might want to study something called the Federal Records Act. Here is a link for you. Good luck, there are a lot of words in addition to the title that you probably aren't familiar with. Federal Records Act - US Department of Education www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/fra.html"The Federal Records Act of 1950, as amended, establishes the framework for records management programs in Federal Agencies." Whatever you want to call it, she still violated it...Changes nothing...its a felony...I am quite sure Jimi can figure it out... As I said to hoofie, you should go talk to FBI director Comey about these Clinton felonies that you have evidence for, because you obviously have some information that the FBI does not have access to.
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Post by jiminix on Oct 31, 2016 15:40:46 GMT -7
Confirmation from an unexpected source: Chuck Grassley, the right wing Iowa senator who is chair of the Judiciary Committee, says that FBI Director Comey was unfair to Clinton to release vague and unsubstantiated email accusations 11 days before the election with insufficient data for anyone to evaluate it. thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303647-gop-senator-calls-comeys-disclosure-unfair-to-clintonEven Joe Walsh, the former Republican representative who yelled "You lie" at Obama during a State of the Union address, said that the timing of Comey's disclosure was unfair to Clinton. In fact, about the only support Comey has gotten is from Trump himself, who said in a speech last night the he was glad the FBI had reopened the email investigation {FALSE} and that this is more proof that Hillary is evil and should not be allowed to run. Of course, it's proof of NOTHING - that's the problem - Comey said only that emails were found, but nobody has read any of them yet, and none of them are known to have been sent or received by Clinton. It was an allegation based on no facts whatever, whose only conceivable effect is to distract from Trump's embarrassments, and to put the FBI's weight out in opposition to Clinton.
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Post by hoofie on Nov 1, 2016 5:08:20 GMT -7
All of these actions have convinced me that the fix was done in July. The FBI director was pressured to render the decision, which was not his to make, because the AG had "the appearance of impropriety". The function of the FBI is to investigate and present evidence. NOT to decide whether or not to prosecute. If the AG recuses herself, the decision should have gone down her command chain the the deputy AG.
Once this new evidence presented itself (650,000 emails!) Comey was dead in the water if he brought it up now, and he was dead in the water if he sat on it until after the election. The AG and DOJ has effed this up and are trying to hang Comey for it after they canonized him last July.
As an aside: 650,000 emails! Dayuuum!
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