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Post by hoofie on Jan 24, 2017 13:35:14 GMT -7
First of all I never denied Republicans boycotted. Here is the exact quote from my original post: I did not explicitly say there were none. I was merely pointing out that it was such a non event that no participants come to mind. Secondly, You continue to argue against science. While President Obama identifies as black, his father was Kenyan and his mother and maternal grandparents are explicitly Caucasian. Barack Obama sits with his grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham in New York City in the 1980s
Lastly, I was not a Trump supporter until he was the nominee facing Hillary Clinton. There was no way I was ever going to support Mrs Clinton. I despised Ted Cruz as well, but would have supported him against Clinton. Now that Trump is our president, he deserves the same chance that Obama got. Why is the left so afraid of success?
I agree completely. Democrats should band together and vow that their number one goal is to make Trump a one term president, then follow through by blocking everything he tries to do including blocking judicial appointments including up to the Supreme Court. Who didn't hug you to make you this way? If the Democrats want to try to block everything, that is a most excellent idea. The 2018 elections will be all that more special.
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Post by bmccullough on Jan 24, 2017 13:51:00 GMT -7
Republican-led Congress doesn't completely have carte blanche for the next 2 years. They'll have their own tight-wire act to maintain. Full article here: How Will Congress Handle the Trump PresidencyFasten your seatbelts, it's gonna be a bumpy 2 years. (If Trump doesn't get impeached before then, that is...)
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Post by ranger06 on Jan 24, 2017 16:40:45 GMT -7
I agree completely. Democrats should band together and vow that their number one goal is to make Trump a one term president, then follow through by blocking everything he tries to do including blocking judicial appointments including up to the Supreme Court. No, you don't agree completely. Obama had almost 2 years of his "my way of the highway" before McConnell made his statement. "There is no doubt that McConnell said he wanted to make Obama a one-term president. But he did not say it at the start of Obama’s term; instead, he made his comments at the midpoint, after Obama had enacted many of his preferred policies. Perhaps, in Obama’s memory, McConnell was always uncooperative. But that does not give him and other Democrats the license to rearrange the chronology to suit the party’s talking points." www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/when-did-mcconnell-say-he-wanted-to-make-obama-a-one-term-president/2012/09/24/79fd5cd8-0696-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html?utm_term=.6c9fb3fa1b75Additionally, there were 2 SCOTUS appointments before all were shut down in Obama's last 10 months.
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Post by jiminix on Jan 24, 2017 20:31:51 GMT -7
Actually, it was more than 11 months. If you're going to quibble about trivial differences, you should be more careful about your own statements. The Republican strategy began on DAY 1 of Obama's administration. The story was widely reported about the Republican meeting that night while Democrats were attending their inauguration balls, in which they decided that they would block everything Obama tried to do. The story was leaked the next day by participants in the meeting. The Republican mythology is that Obama had free rein for 2 years, a "filibuster-proof majority", or "my way or the highway" as you called it above. The truth is that Democrats only had that 60-vote majority for a few weeks - I once counted exactly how many days, but I don't remember the exact number now, I think it was about 6 weeks. So YES, McConnell was uncooperative from Day 1. And for all but a small number of days in Obama's 8 years, Republicans had the ability to block everything Democrats tried to do.
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Post by ranger06 on Jan 24, 2017 22:23:57 GMT -7
Actually, it was more than 11 months. If you're going to quibble about trivial differences, you should be more careful about your own statements. The Republican strategy began on DAY 1 of Obama's administration. The story was widely reported about the Republican meeting that night while Democrats were attending their inauguration balls, in which they decided that they would block everything Obama tried to do. The story was leaked the next day by participants in the meeting. The Republican mythology is that Obama had free rein for 2 years, a "filibuster-proof majority", or "my way or the highway" as you called it above. The truth is that Democrats only had that 60-vote majority for a few weeks - I once counted exactly how many days, but I don't remember the exact number now, I think it was about 6 weeks. So YES, McConnell was uncooperative from Day 1. And for all but a small number of days in Obama's 8 years, Republicans had the ability to block everything Democrats tried to do. Your memory is a bit off. The Senate Dems of the 111th Congress held the 60 "filibuster-proof majority" for about 6 weeks in July - Aug '09, but they held it again for many months late Sept '09 - early Feb '10. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress Note also that contrary to your statement, the "my way or the highway" was in reference to Obama. Your "filibuster-proof majority" can only be in reference to the Senate. Obama and the Senate are not the same thing. Your math is off too. McConnell put in the block in mid Feb, '16. Obama only had 10 months he could make a nomination before the 114th Congress ended its term and thus ending Obama's ability to make a nomination. Count the months: March, April, May, June, July, August, Sept, Oct, Nov and Dec. The middle of December Congress adjourned for Christmas and nothing happened until the 3rd of January when the new Congress convened. That Obama had another month in office is irrelevant. If you're going to quibble about trivial differences, do attempt to be correct.
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