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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 19:48:43 GMT -7
Back in the early 1960s, the top tax rate was 90 percent. That translated to the lowest worker only making 70 times less then the owner of a company. As that top tax dropped, the income started to separate because the owner was making more money.
So if today you made 100 bucks and was taxed at 90 percent, you would make ten bucks. As the tax rate dropped, income rose for the top earners (owners of business). Then the income separated meaning the bottom earner made 100 times less, then 150, then 200, then the 293 we are at now.
The bottom earners were not taxed at this rate.
Then comes income inequality. The idea of the middle class was created because in those days you could be in the economic middle. You could earn half of what an owner of a company was making.
Then somehow, a bunch of people got together with manipulative brains and said "hey, lets hide this". So they created a system where they would call people middle class without these people being in the economic middle. Then they based it on locale and so on making it look better and people fell for it. As they are today. If the top earners in this country is making one billion a year, how can 60K place you in the economic middle?
Well, welcome to a fiat currency. We have to have faith in this fake monopoly money that has no value. So lets not tell the people we are actually making them poorer. They will work harder for less to make ends meet and in the end, we the rich will buy up everything and we will call it the American dream and the peons will buy from us because we own everything and through us they can accomplish this "dream". A slave society where we work for our masters and spend our hard earned currency (not money) to buy things from these same people.
Tax breaks is all we hear. It will create opportunity we are told. When historically, it never created one single job (trickle down economics) and has only allowed to the rich to get much richer while the "middle class" held the largest tax burden in the country.
Then banks and the Federal Reserve... Another topic.
But the point is, as the "middle class" is being squeezed to death, their economic power dwindles as the wealthy gains more wealth. And of course, regulation is setup against the "middle class" and that keeps our hooks into the rich. Because the "middle class" have a harder time creating opportunity (buying and creating businesses) which in turn keeps us slaves.
I don't buy into the old ideology that was created by manipulators with brains. I buy into the idea that if you are not in the economic middle, you are not middle class. And of course this is not all about the rich. If you have 5 gas stations in your town and the owner of those stations (1 owner) makes 5 million a year, you need to make around 2.5 million to be middle class in your locale.
This is how we got where we are today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 19:51:11 GMT -7
I have said over and over and yet, over again that the middle of one billion is 500 million. Why would I mess up the math? Because you've no choice but to mess it up. The same with you attributing made up statements to me. Note that you've still failed to show proof of them. No, you stated 1,000,000,000/.5=60. Then you said friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to b e. News flash - you paid your friend no favors. He's as faulty in elementary math as you are. Hope he has a grasp as to what the middle class is. You sure don't. Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on....
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 14, 2017 19:59:33 GMT -7
corbint, can you explain how tax cuts directly caused the raise in income for the top earners? That doesn't make sense to me. If one's tax rate drops, they have more discretionary dollars. The incentive to demand extraordinary wages would seem greater if taxed at 90%. You have a point there. Assume I'm middle class and make above the median income of Alabama at $60K/yr. How is a tax cut going to raise my income? It doesn't. There is no change. My income remains $60K/yr whether a tax break occurs or not. A tax break did not increase my income to say, $70K/yr. It does mean I have more of the original $60K/yr to spend as I see fit (discretionary dollars).
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 14, 2017 20:05:42 GMT -7
Because you've no choice but to mess it up. The same with you attributing made up statements to me. Note that you've still failed to show proof of them. No, you stated 1,000,000,000/.5=60. Then you said friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to b e. News flash - you paid your friend no favors. He's as faulty in elementary math as you are. Hope he has a grasp as to what the middle class is. You sure don't. Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on.... Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:07:38 GMT -7
Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on.... Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be." Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on....
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 14, 2017 20:13:49 GMT -7
Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:14:23 GMT -7
Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be." Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on....
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 14, 2017 20:18:14 GMT -7
I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:20:59 GMT -7
I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be." Troll..... End it! I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Believe your masters and leave us with a brain and independent thought to do the thinking. Move on....
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Post by ranger06 on Apr 14, 2017 20:36:50 GMT -7
I have asked over and over and you beg to keep this going. Wow, another made up claim you attributed to me. Where did I beg you to keep this going? And since you keep responding - you are the troll. You are the one who spread lies, claimed statements I didn't write and have still failed to show where I supposedly wrote them. Now about your lack of math and economics skills. Tell me again how that "friend who is 72, a retired engineer (worked for the army corps of engineers) agrees with you. You claimed he is educated and way better at math then you could ever hope to be." BTW, for the math challenged and those with limited memory, 1,000,000,000/.5=60 is incorrect. It's 2 billion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:54:48 GMT -7
I made one post how I thought control is being used on this forum and I used one example. Then comes this blowhard to rekindle the back and forth again proving he is a troll. I have asked over and over for this to end but the moron refuses to end it and instead likes to target poststs I make to get under his skin and prove he is a troll, like the math example.
I have an IQ on 118. Why would I make such a childish mistake with math? Only to get under his skin and prove he is a troll. He makes up lies and calls name to keep dragging me back into the p*ssing contest.
I think different then he does. God forbid and I am not willing to change the way I think because some blowhard on a forum fails to see things the way I do. Here is how I feel, I don't care if anyone agrees with me. The person I'm arguing with has a mental problem and believes I have to either agree with him, or I am an idiot.
He's a troll. Don't pay him any mind because he can't think for himself. All he is doing is regurgitating information he learned from others. Not one stitch of thought involved.
He will make fun of this post. Possibly my intelligence. Insinuate I am stupid. Call an engineer stupid (that's funny). And all the while miss the point and ride on about a point he lacks.
Oh well, I need to stop with these childish games. I will let the blowhard speak.
Here's the mic blowhard (drops mic). Tell these people something you haven't already said and make it original.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 6:25:59 GMT -7
This thread title is producing nothing productive .
We do have a section for humor and nonsense in the Lounge.
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