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Post by osha on Dec 15, 2017 15:36:05 GMT -7
As a public service announcement, tax rates are merely the mandatory minimum payment to the government. Those that want higher taxes are free to pay more, as it would be accepted. That's a typical right wing talking point I have heard for years. So because the smart people in society see that the working class is being bent over while the rich sit at desks with a smile and collect money on the back of the working, the right gives breaks and suggests the poor pay more if they don't like it. All while bowing to their corporate overlords. That ideology has worked so well. Thank Trump and his party for the end of the free web as well. I suppose if we don't like it, we can start our own internet companies.... But wait.... I'm sure there are regulations that prevent that as that would hurt the corporate overlords.
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Post by osha on Dec 14, 2017 16:07:24 GMT -7
Of course. But, spending is spending. If I go out to Burger King it still comes of of my household money. Sure, my mortgage and electric is paid first, but that money still comes from somewhere.
So if I create a budget (which I have because I love spreadsheets)and all money has to be accounted for, it doesn't really matter. If I can't buy food because the rent is to high (which would be roof first and food second) then I have an issue. So no matter where military or Social Security spending comes from, it is still money that needs budgeted.
I stand behind my post although you are right.
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Post by osha on Dec 14, 2017 14:13:36 GMT -7
Nobody is doubting what Hoofie has said.
We can't ignore that military is the biggest expenditure the government has. Sure, perhaps at some place at some time other things cost more. But the military is by large the biggest money we spend. Of course unless you count welfare for the rich.
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Post by osha on Dec 14, 2017 10:27:53 GMT -7
Very simple, tax breaks.
The elephant in the room you mean? The military industrial complex?
If the government gave you a tax break, you would take it. And if that tax break bought you a house and a car, you would buy it. That was my point.
It's funny how republicans want to go back to the old world but the forget the top tax rate on the rich was 90% back in the early 60's.
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Post by osha on Dec 13, 2017 17:15:54 GMT -7
Besides all that, who cares? The stock market has set 81 records this year. GDP has seen 3% or more growth each quarter this year, and the national debt is growing at half the pace of the previous administration. Of course. When you're offering the rich more money, they get excited and inflate the market. Notice how wages are still stagnant? Notice how the tax breaks are helping those who don't need help? But in the end, they will cut programs that help people in order to increase monies. Would you be excited if the government offered you a new house and a new car? Of course.
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Post by osha on Dec 13, 2017 17:11:10 GMT -7
Money in politics has to go. Neither party can be trusted as long as they are catering to special interests.
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Post by osha on Oct 18, 2017 18:45:20 GMT -7
Then the supreme leader dies. People get mad and they retaliate. Then we have terrorists and they attack. The people beg for protection. We lose freedoms and we rinse and repeat.
War solves nothing.
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Post by osha on Oct 18, 2017 18:42:04 GMT -7
Where to invade next is a good one as well.
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Post by osha on Aug 31, 2017 13:18:47 GMT -7
Thanks
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Post by osha on Aug 27, 2017 20:13:53 GMT -7
I've been easing off politics. Decided to check on the forum.
Not much to say anymore on the topic of politics. Both sides have gone a bit wonky and I'm a better person when I'm not trying to argue points that devide us. We need uninty and somehow we need to find common ground.
Great people on this forum though and some great talks. I may ease back into lurking a bit.
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Post by osha on Jun 27, 2017 20:11:16 GMT -7
I don't see anything wrong with this.
If you are able to work you should or at least try. I actually liked the way Ohio has done the programs as well.
I'm an advocate of the poor but the poor could at least try.
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Post by osha on Jun 26, 2017 19:51:22 GMT -7
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Post by osha on Jun 25, 2017 21:25:41 GMT -7
I have had a huge change in the way I view politics and I don't even want to think about politics anymore really.
The right and left fights about their views and it changes nothing. If we do not get special interests out of politics guess what? The government is never working for us, ever. I don't care what side of the political isle you are on, if legal bribes are allowed and they are, the government is working for the people paying for the bribes. If you are not filthy rich and you are not bribing with that money you have, forget it. Your just a peon and a none those the people who are supposed to work for you.
And the DNC already has proven your voice don't matter. So, if your voice don't matter and that means your vote holds no weight, then what does this mean? We are nothing and the rich are making the choices.
So, I essentially give up the fight. Because no matter how much we bicker back and forth about what is right and wrong, what we think and want does not matter anyways.
Just care about our fellow brothers and sisters and take it apon ourselves to care. Because those at the top who make policy are doing it for no one but their donors.
Meh.
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Post by osha on Jun 22, 2017 18:08:05 GMT -7
Yet in many devoleped nations, health care is guaranteed as a right. And they pay less.
Only in the Unloved States of America would we just tell people to die to benefit the wealthy.
United? That was a good joke while it lasted. I don't think we are united on anything.
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Post by osha on Jun 22, 2017 11:38:53 GMT -7
Until we care about humanity and realize we are connected and love all, it will be hard to understand the needs of others. A nation without love is what we live in. Truth.
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