Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:37:30 GMT -7
Wanting to cut (2d) SS and kill SS are 2 different things, according to Webster's Dictionary. (hint: that's a citation). According to his first quote: As I currently understand it, 2050 is just under 33 years from now. Allowing the cuts an equal distribution over time, this would equate to 1/2 of 1% cut per year.
Mr Bit needs to look up the definition of rhetoric. (another fantastic citation) It is the universal language of politicians, regardless of the color jersey he wears.
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, . For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored. Snake bite.Personal I am sick of your slurs. You yourself are showing discrimation,racist in your posts against others. I wish I was a white supremacist your askhole would not still be posting racist remarks toward me!LOL! Guess what I found your nose,it was stuck in my business!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:48:40 GMT -7
Wanting to cut (2d) SS and kill SS are 2 different things, according to Webster's Dictionary. (hint: that's a citation). According to his first quote: As I currently understand it, 2050 is just under 33 years from now. Allowing the cuts an equal distribution over time, this would equate to 1/2 of 1% cut per year.
Mr Bit needs to look up the definition of rhetoric. (another fantastic citation) It is the universal language of politicians, regardless of the color jersey he wears.
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. , judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored. Where is Harley when we need him?
|
|
|
Post by hoofie on Apr 16, 2017 10:48:02 GMT -7
Wanting to cut (2d) SS and kill SS are 2 different things, according to Webster's Dictionary. (hint: that's a citation). According to his first quote: As I currently understand it, 2050 is just under 33 years from now. Allowing the cuts an equal distribution over time, this would equate to 1/2 of 1% cut per year.
Mr Bit needs to look up the definition of rhetoric. (another fantastic citation) It is the universal language of politicians, regardless of the color jersey he wears.
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, As an aside I'm still wondering why you censored dixies White supremacist statements. For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. Dixies racist views are, judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored. Social Security in its current form cannot sustain itself. It was originally intended to help the widows and children of war casualties. It morphed over the years into a quasi-retirement program that does not pay most retirees enough to sustain their lifestyle. Knowing what I now know, I would have loved it if all of the SS benefits I have paid in went to my own retirement account and all of the compound interest paid since 1977 through all of the years, would have set me up nicely for retirement. The portion of SS taxes paid by employers could have sustained the disabled, widows, and orphans if the money was kept in an interest bearing account, but politicians saw fit to use the SS money to balance budgets with accounting slight-of-hands. With entitlement payments making up a little over 2/3 of total federal spending, reform has to start somewhere. We shouldn't take it from those that need it, but sending disability checks to crack heads infuriates me. Do they need help? Yes, but not in the form of a check. ......................................................... As to your censor comments, I did not "censor" anything. I removed statements that would be offensive to most of our readers. I also removed harsh comments and personal attacks which are against our TOS. We can all disagree without being disagreeable.
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on Apr 17, 2017 7:55:42 GMT -7
if we would convert medicaid and medicare to single payer many of the chronically disabled would be able to return to work bringing in more tax revenue and joining the two programs into single payer would lower the overhead between two separate programs drastically and we wouldn't risk unemploying millions of healthcare workers one of whom is my fiance. at a minimum if you have a history of being disabled you should not be dinged with loss of your comprehensive healthcare for returning to work and getting off the disability rolls. i know a lot of people who are chronically ill but can still work and would return to work if they wouldn't loose their healthcare. SSDi / SSi / and Social Security pay a small pittance of a check compared to working and i could make good money going back to work but it would all go to my healthcare since i have multiple chronic preexisting conditions. a small amount of SS recipients (and that number is dwindling as they die off)are substance abusers since 96 SSDi / SSi no longer hands out checks for substance abuse as a disability those who were on it at the time were grandfathered but no new enrollees are allowed to claim substance abuse as a disability. maybe if we stop dropping $300M bombs to kill only 36 combatants, stop throwing money at currently multi trillion dollar jets that still can't fly, stop shipping money overseas, get wages up to a livable standard like they used to be, we could afford to take care of our vets, retirees, disabled, widows, working citizenry, etc. the only reason SS is part of the budget now is because politicians robbed nearly 3 Trillion from the SS fund over the years and now they owe that money plus interest and don't want to pay it back. they rather kill the entity they owe the debt to then pay it back and keep the country's promise to widows, disabled, and retirees.
|
|
|
Post by badman on Apr 17, 2017 15:11:54 GMT -7
John Doe wrote...the only reason SS is part of the budget now is because politicians robbed nearly 3 Trillion from the SS fund over the years and now they owe that money plus interest and don't want to pay it back. they rather kill the entity they owe the debt to then pay it back and keep the country's promise to widows, disabled, and retirees. Read more: tnewsbackupforum.boards.net/post/new/792#ixzz4eXzKwATvDo you honestly trust politicians to provide for your healthcare?
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on Apr 17, 2017 19:32:13 GMT -7
they are not prviding my healthcare doctors are doing that. they are simply using taxes from everyone to cover the cost of healthcare for everyone this is the misconception people have about single payer. it is exactly as it sounds. simply a single payer the government covering costs of care your doctor provides to you.
medicare and medicaid work great millions are happy with it and it could be even better with some modification to make it better, what trump and ryan are proposing will make it worse not better!!
|
|
|
Post by badman on Apr 18, 2017 16:47:14 GMT -7
John Doe, thanks for your reply.
I'm probably not the best to debate socialized medical coverage because I'm either too tight, too busy, or maybe fortunate to not participate in the medical industry. I haven't seen a doctor in years, therefore I am not directed to take a plethora of pharmaceutical poisons. During this time, I am fairly sure that I have broken at least 2 bones, yet would not take even a tylenol or go to the emergency room or a doctor. Crazy thing is that I always kept medical insurance even with all the PPACA mandates.
As I grow older, I know at sometime I may need "professional healthcare". My concern is that nearly 1 in 5 doctors no longer want to accept medicare patients, and 1 in 3 doctors refuse medicaid.
That the politicians are not providing your healthcare is understood. But they are and will be providing FOR it with a single payer system.
|
|
|
Post by snakebit on Apr 19, 2017 8:42:29 GMT -7
Cuts are the first step in Ryans plan to end SS and other entitlements. If you had paid attention to his policy statements over the past few years you would understand his end game. The columnists writing about his plan to end SS understand he is in this for the long run, . For gods sake hoofie, we have White supremacists in the White house. judging by der gropenfuehers approval rating. shared by 35 % of the population, hence are a valid viewpoint and shouldn't be censored. Snake bite.Personal I am sick of your slurs. You yourself are showing discrimation,racist in your posts against others. I wish I was a white supremacist your askhole would not still be posting racist remarks toward me!LOL! Guess what I found your nose,it was stuck in my business! Poor little dixie. If you don't want to be called a White supremacist don't post (pray) that it would improve the country if all non Whites left. Personally I believe this would be a better country if non Whites stay and White supremacists leave. You are entitled to espouse the opposite without being censored.
|
|
|
Post by hoofie on Apr 19, 2017 10:45:42 GMT -7
Snake bite.Personal I am sick of your slurs. You yourself are showing discrimation,racist in your posts against others. I wish I was a white supremacist your askhole would not still be posting racist remarks toward me!LOL! Guess what I found your nose,it was stuck in my business! Poor little dixie. If you don't want to be called a White supremacist don't post (pray) that it would improve the country if all non Whites left. Personally I believe this would be a better country if non Whites stay and White supremacists leave. You are entitled to espouse the opposite without being censored. You both are off topic. The thread is about some asshat doing something with Social Security.
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on Apr 19, 2017 11:28:28 GMT -7
in retrospect i probably could have come up with a better title but i was hopping mad at the time that this guy is breaking all his campaign promises from the border wall to social security. edit: went back and cleaned up the title :-)
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on Apr 19, 2017 11:50:15 GMT -7
I have issued infraction warnings for the behavior in this and select other threads.
I Repeat personal attacks will not be tolerated.
You know who you are and i will not call you out in public.
this behavior stops here with this post. lets get back to being civil and staying on topic.
we can disagree, we can throw snot at each others political party but i will not tolerate adhominem attacks toward forum members or non family friendly talk.
that applies to me, forum members and moderators alike.
|
|
|
Post by hoofie on Apr 19, 2017 11:55:36 GMT -7
in retrospect i probably could have come up with a better title but i was hopping mad at the time that this guy is breaking all his campaign promises from the border wall to social security. edit: went back and cleaned up the title :-) I hope you gave yourself a stern warning too! Now, how do we fix Social Security?
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on Apr 19, 2017 18:01:55 GMT -7
couple things that can be done is to remove the FICA cap, very limited means testing / earnings caps tied to inflation, and to repay with interest all the money borrowed. hell just repaying the borrowed money with interest will make social security solvent for decades to come.
on medicaid and medicare combining and converting the programs to universal healthcare and allowing this program to negotiate pharmaceutical costs. this will drastically lower overhead and overall healthcare costs. then we require Hospitals / ER's, Testing Labs to go non profit the way they used to be. we can have independent primary physicians and specialists but hospitals and ER's, testing labs should not be for profit.
and we also need tort reform. also we should educate doctors and other healthcare professionals free of charge with the requirement they serve under served rural areas in the USA for X amount of years.
there would need to be some way to lock in this program so future congresses can't dicker with the program and try to defund it or some such things to try and make it appear ineffective.
finally. we need to raise taxes on billionaires incomes and golden parachutes, and executive compensation and these things damn sure should not be tax deductible for corporations as a business expense. they want to dole out obscene compensation packages then tax payers should not foot the bill!!!
the other things we can do is a small transaction tax on stock trades.
we can close loopholes in the tax code and require offshore income be repatriated and then lower the overall tax rate.
on estate tax anything over say 5 Million (this number gets tied to actual inflation and goes up with inflation) in value is Taxed at a modest rate with no loopholes to transfer it tax free.
now with all these new taxes here come the tax breaks
you as a business get a percentage off your taxes to employ American (not H1B or Undocumented or Seasonal) workers at a livable standard (say currently $20/hr tied to inflation) and there would be no limit the more workers you employ at a livable standard the higher the tax break.
then we also require government entities to buy American products. especially the military we should not be importing military hardware from other countries!!!
also put a small tariff on incoming products. Say 5% is reasonable.
all these things will serve to improve this country for the average person and make America great again.
|
|
|
Post by John Doe on May 2, 2017 9:01:53 GMT -7
|
|
|
Post by osha on May 2, 2017 12:01:36 GMT -7
Two percent tax for everyone and problem solved.
Really, that simple. But instead they all lie and play into the hands of the ultra rich and we peons who keep this country moving are just disposable obedient workers.
|
|