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Post by ranger06 on Nov 24, 2016 13:30:06 GMT -7
As in ancient times past was there a voice heard, lamentation and weeping and great mourning, the Alt-Left weeping for their illusions of lost causes and would not be comforted, because they are no more. This is the Electoral college protest, the protest, the protest. This is the Electoral college protest: not a bang, but a whimper.
With many groans from St. Mark and T.S. Eliot
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 16, 2016 16:04:39 GMT -7
Democrats held majority for only the first two of the 8 years of Obama's presidency, during which time the ACA was enacted. It (the ACA) then spent approximately the next 2 to 4 years in the Supreme Court on questions of constitutionality, due in large part to the taxes imposed for non-participation with a smaller, more narrow look at whether or not the ACA was constitutional in its general "enforcement" of insurance on the uninsured. The remaining 6 years of Obama's presidency were spent trying to work with a Republican-majority Senate - which as you have so eloquently put in past posts, holds the "yay or nay" in legislation and passing of bills. So, I don't think that I backed your argument - unless your argument is viewed with Republican blinders to your parties inactions and regressive stances of late (i.e., the whole of the past 6 years). You need to do a better job documenting which party controlled what. True, the Democrats controlled both chambers the 1st two years of the Obama presidency, but the rest you've got wrong. The Republicans controlled the House the past 6 years but didn't regain the Senate until January 2015. Your statement "The remaining 6 years of Obama's presidency were spent trying to work with a Republican-majority Senate..." is false. The Republicans have held the Senate for almost 2 years now. Must be those Democrat blinders or sumpin'. 111th Congress, 1/2009 - 1/2011, Democrats both chambers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress 112th Congress, 1/2011 - 1/2013, Democrat Senate, Republican House. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress 113th Congress, 1/2013 - 1/2015, Democrat Senate, Republican House, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress 114th Congress, 1/2015 - 2017, Republican Senate Republican House, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/114th_United_States_Congress The 1st 2 years the Republicans were shut out of anything Obamacare by the Democrat controlled Congress. The next 4 years all House bills trying to change Obamacare were refused by the Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid - a Democrat. The last 2 years Obama threatened to veto any Obamacare bill passed by the Republican controlled Congress. As neither chamber had veto proof majorities, the party of no prevailed. Hoofie, your timing is excellent. tnewsbackupforum.boards.net/thread/670/trump-learn-obamas-mistakes-columnSo again you backed my statement of "Just because they are not in the majority doesn't mean they can't be blamed." And BTW, your statement should read "your party's", "not your parties". It is singular possessive.
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 15:05:58 GMT -7
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Demos were the party of no and will continue as such. Just because they are not in the majority doesn't mean they can't be blamed. What country were you in for the past 8 years while the GOP said 'no' to every single proposal made by the Obama Administration? What country were you in for the past 8 years while the Democrats said 'no' to every single proposal made by the GOP on Obama care, not to mention all the House bills to repeal it? And BTW, you just backed me up by showing the party out of power still gets blamed. Let's see if John Doe takes you off his Christmas card list form destroying his argument.
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 15:02:57 GMT -7
Come noon 1/20 the 5th president who didn't get the popular vote will take office. The wisdom of our Founding Fathers shines through once more.
BTW, how's that other far left petition, Flush Rush, coming along?
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 14:59:32 GMT -7
No one forgot you Ranger, You're expected to be here. What hoofie said. I would never, Ranger. How's our mutual friend - have you spoken to him recently? We all got together over at Kay's place back on 10/15. He's just older, has a fuzzy face (much gray) and his retirement clock is down to 3 months.
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 14:47:44 GMT -7
Wrong. There are plenty in the Senate, the House, governors, state legislatures, judges etc. cannot blame Democrats for what comes next. Two wrongs don't make a right. The Demos were the party of no and will continue as such. Just because they are not in the majority doesn't mean they can't be blamed.
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 13:53:00 GMT -7
... there are no democrats this time to blame it on. Wrong. There are plenty in the Senate, the House, governors, state legislatures, judges etc.
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Post by ranger06 on Nov 14, 2016 13:04:08 GMT -7
There are several, and as I will undoubtedly leave out someone, I'll mention only a few: macdaddy: hoping he'll decide to make the transition; webslinginpete: we lost him in the last TNews update; Compass Rose/Conformno/sweetpea: I interact with them on FB; quetzal and Winston. Arrrrggh! Once again you forgot me.
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